Posts : 393 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 64 Location : Chicagoland
Subject: Playing with the Trem held down Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:36 am
I was really impressed with the satriani trem video that Kugelspot posted I wanted to try my version of a technique in that playing while hold/moving the tremolo in crazy in-between pitches
I used it here in Whammy Wasteland using my EB-0 for the straight bass and my BluesHawk for everything else. Notice how horn like the Blueshawk sounds, almost saxophone like in some parts.
From now on I am going to explore playing this way - the trem in constant use, on bass, everything.
amimbari
Posts : 2070 Join date : 2009-03-21 Age : 64 Location : Pittsburgh, PA
Subject: Re: Playing with the Trem held down Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:57 am
just so you know....to me, ALL your creations are great...trem or not
EricHaven Admin
Posts : 2974 Join date : 2009-03-20 Age : 58 Location : Birch Bay, WA
Subject: Re: Playing with the Trem held down Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:19 pm
I totally agree! Your music makes me think of something like as if Robert Fripp had joined Frank Zappa. It's way out there, and MONDO cool!
Chowderboots
Posts : 2197 Join date : 2009-03-22 Age : 32 Location : Kirkistan, WA
Subject: Re: Playing with the Trem held down Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:47 pm
Your stuff is really rad, BD. I love the sound of your EB-0. I agree--it sounds very Zappa-y.
That video is far out. I really enjoy the Middle Eastern semitone bending.
Yvarg
Posts : 87 Join date : 2009-03-31 Age : 34 Location : Alta Loma, CA
Subject: Re: Playing with the Trem held down Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:11 pm
Wow, those songs are really cool, Barklessdog! I'm not too familiar with Zappa's work (I know, I know; I've been told a million times I would love it, just haven't looked it up yet), but I'm definitely hearing some King Crimson-like sounds.
Chowderboots
Posts : 2197 Join date : 2009-03-22 Age : 32 Location : Kirkistan, WA
Subject: Re: Playing with the Trem held down Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:19 pm
Yvarg wrote:
Wow, those songs are really cool, Barklessdog! I'm not too familiar with Zappa's work (I know, I know; I've been told a million times I would love it, just haven't looked it up yet), but I'm definitely hearing some King Crimson-like sounds.
Yeah same here, but from the songs I've heard, BD certainly has the vibe going on.
Barklessdog
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Subject: Re: Playing with the Trem held down Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:49 am
Thanks. Zappa covered just about every genre one can think of. From Progg rockish with Jack Bruce & his EB-3
With Jean Luc Ponty, George Duke, Ruth Underwood
Sly
Posts : 138 Join date : 2009-09-21
Subject: Re: Playing with the Trem held down Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:21 am
Very cool stuff!
Kugelspot
Posts : 649 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 33
Subject: Re: Playing with the Trem held down Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:20 am
Barklessdog wrote:
From Progg rockish with Jack Bruce & his EB-3
Apparently, Jack Bruce never played bass on Apostrophe. He only played cello. Or at least he says he never did. Even though who ever was playing bass on the record sounded a lot like Jack Bruce, both tonally and stylistically.
Anyway, ya, I love Zappa
Chowderboots
Posts : 2197 Join date : 2009-03-22 Age : 32 Location : Kirkistan, WA
Subject: Re: Playing with the Trem held down Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:48 pm
Kugelspot wrote:
Barklessdog wrote:
From Progg rockish with Jack Bruce & his EB-3
Apparently, Jack Bruce never played bass on Apostrophe. He only played cello. Or at least he says he never did. Even though who ever was playing bass on the record sounded a lot like Jack Bruce, both tonally and stylistically.
Anyway, ya, I love Zappa
Jack Bruce has said a lot of things. It really does sound like him on that recording.
Kugelspot
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Subject: Re: Playing with the Trem held down Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:27 pm
Ya I don't believe it either. He was probably just too stoned to remember or something. Really, it just sounds too much like him for me to believe it isn't.
Chowderboots
Posts : 2197 Join date : 2009-03-22 Age : 32 Location : Kirkistan, WA
Subject: Re: Playing with the Trem held down Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:32 pm
Yeah. I've heard a couple interviews where he's said one thing one time, then completely the opposite another time when talking about the same subject. I guess if he really didn't want to connect himself with Zappa's music because that wasn't his bag at some point in time, then maybe he denied it publicly as well as internally.
Barklessdog
Posts : 393 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 64 Location : Chicagoland
Subject: Re: Playing with the Trem held down Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:42 am
From Zappa
Quote :
from: frank zappa: guitarist (1997 interview with steve rosen) steven rosen: what about playing with jack bruce on apostrophe (')? frank zappa: well, that was just a jam thing that happened because he was a friend of jim gordon. i found it very difficult to play with him; he's too busy. he doesn't really want to play the bass in terms of root functions; i think he has other things on his mind. but that's the way jam sessions go.
Jack Bruce on Can You Follow? (6 CD, Esoteric Recordings ECLECBOX 1, June 23, 2008):
Whilst in the USA I also played a session with Frank Zappa and Jim Gordon that ended up on Frank's album "Apostrophe". We had met before and he suggested that it might be fun to work together. For that session he originally wanted me to use a cello on the track, but as my instrument was back in London he hired one from a company in New York. It was so bad that I couldn't use it. That's when he suggested doing something with me playing my EB 3 bass and the track "Apostrophe" came out of that.
Apostrophe does not sound like much now, but back wehen it came out it had top 40 airplay (in Cleveland) and blew my mind on first a bass solo with effects, then that the bass could be the focus of the song. It influenced me a lot. Funny but Apostrophe was Zappa's only record that went gold.
Barklessdog
Posts : 393 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 64 Location : Chicagoland
Subject: Re: Playing with the Trem held down Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:33 am
Here is a song I tried using the trem technique but in a Miles Davis horn feel
I used my RD & Blueshawk (horn parts), both trying to keep the trem in action as much as possible in all areas. I am a Miles Davis fan and find his playing crazy.