Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Wed May 06, 2009 8:07 pm
yep..that guy on the 7 string was getting paid by the note!!! very cool... got the EMG 81..its on the explorer...it rips!!! however, I picked up the following bass on the dreaded ebay... C:\Users\john\Pictures\My Pictures\RAVEN PIX\RavenPic\delgado bass.JPG and the Kent Armstrong humbuckers on it are just killer - kinda like a T-bird bass on steroids - the bass just sings with distortion...so I'm chasing Mr. Armstrong for one! the EMG is cool but its a little "honky" and is lacking on the lows..but thats the pickup I used on the "igarbo" solo and all the '80's trem stuff.. the First Act Delgado bass is so beat to **** I was amazed..it can only be a year or two old but the guy who had it was brutal...next to the bridge pickup is a thunbnail wear mark thats more like a gouge...the electrics are all messed up..intermittent vol pot...and Jack socket - but its a good 'un and yes..maybe a trem on it down the line! finally got some copies of our new album & will be selling them on our website (shameless plug) cheers!
Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Thu May 07, 2009 6:36 am
johng wrote:
Careful with that one you'll put someones eye out!
johng
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Thu May 07, 2009 5:14 pm
HA!!! yep, its the "pointy anoity" bass!!!! heres the delgado ....not so pointy but still..it kills...
Chowderboots
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Thu May 07, 2009 5:44 pm
Nice...now that's pretty classy looking!
Kugelspot
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Thu May 07, 2009 6:15 pm
VERY classy, but in a rock and roll way, like a Rickenbacker or Spector. Me likes!
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Thu May 07, 2009 6:44 pm
Speaking of your live solo I.G.A.R.B.O. John, what bass did you use then?
johng
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Sat May 09, 2009 8:31 pm
Hi Eric, thats the red explorer, with the EMG 81.... having a nightmare with the wiring..but the white T-bird bass is almost up & running, pix to come soon....trying to set up 2 MM pickups, 2 vols & a 3 way switch...sounds easy but I'm using a gibson style switch thats just odd & p... ing me off..
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Sat May 09, 2009 8:53 pm
If you want to ship it to me, I'd be glad to give the wiring my personal TLC!
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Sat May 09, 2009 9:15 pm
And look what I found! This is the audio from the live Raven album Live At The Inferno, and the track is John's bass solo called I.G.A.R.B.O. If you guys want to hear some insane bass trem usage, along with John's frightening picking ability, listen up!
Let me stress again. This is NOT a guitar. It is indeed John Gallagher soloing on his red Explorer bass (as he confirmed only a couple of posts ago).
Chowderboots
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Sun May 10, 2009 12:09 am
That's just awesome!!!
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Sun May 10, 2009 6:50 am
EricHaven wrote:
This is NOT a guitar.
Utter lies, pshhh, of course its a bloody guitar, I can hear that much...............
A "bass" guitar!
Kugelspot
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Sun May 10, 2009 9:11 pm
Just got Live at the Inferno. So awesome!!! \m/ \m/
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Mon May 11, 2009 8:40 pm
OK, John. A couple more questions, if I may?
When you begin I.G.A.R.B.O., I can tell that you have an A chord that you shake and drop with your trem, apply a little wah, then you come up with these couple of absolutely screaming high notes! How on Earth did/do you come up with those? Harmonics? Pure volume and feedback? And did you use some sort of octave device? The chords sound almost like a guitar at times! Astonishing!
Chowderboots
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Mon May 11, 2009 9:26 pm
EricHaven wrote:
OK, John. A couple more questions, if I may?
When you begin I.G.A.R.B.O., I can tell that you have an A chord that you shake and drop with your trem, apply a little wah, then you come up with these couple of absolutely screaming high notes! How on Earth did/do you come up with those? Harmonics? Pure volume and feedback? And did you use some sort of octave device? The chords sound almost like a guitar at times! Astonishing!
I was thinking just that...what are they? Pinch harmonics? Satan himself driving your speakers?
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Tue May 12, 2009 8:52 pm
Hi, well..thats my patented auto wah/chorus nonsense for a second... then a couple of harmonics around the 2nd fret! no octave devices or safety nets... you'd love what I'm messing with now...ring modulator & then some pitch stuff...very sick!
Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Tue May 12, 2009 9:23 pm
That thing is amazing! I can't quite put my finger on why it's so awesome, though. Probably it's because everything about that bass is just beautiful, and it all goes together really well.
BTW, what kind of pickups are those?
Also, what does I.G.A.R.B.O. stand for, anyway?
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Tue May 12, 2009 9:43 pm
Are the pickup passive and what are they????
Kugelspot
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Tue May 12, 2009 10:20 pm
^ exposed pole pickups are usually passive. No idea what brand or anything
Chowderboots
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Tue May 12, 2009 11:52 pm
Oh dude that's kickass! I've been thinking about building myself an Exporer with that kinda scheme (maple neck, creme body, white (or black...) pickguard). I think it looks classy as hell...but metal as ****!
Is that a vintage black Kahler bar on there?
And I love the tigerstripe cushions!!
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Wed May 13, 2009 7:48 pm
Beautiful bass, John!
One of these days, we're getting on a plane heading back east so I can drop by and play your basses!
And KS, if I'm not mistaken, I.G.A.R.B.O. stands for I Got A Real Boner On, or something like that.
Kugelspot
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Wed May 13, 2009 8:04 pm
EricHaven wrote:
And KS, if I'm not mistaken, I.G.A.R.B.O. stands for I Got A Real Boner On, or something like that.
That's awesome!
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Wed May 13, 2009 8:35 pm
yeah, close - its " I've got a rampant boner on" our old drum roadie used acronyms when pointing out hot women!!!!! so I had to use it... and Eric, any time mate!! the pickups..ones a wilkinson MM, the other a no name but they are both loud & proud..passive but sound really good...I'm still in shock this project turned out so well...next bit of fum is picking th ebest points for the straplocks...this is a heavy bass in more ways than one!
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Wed May 13, 2009 8:53 pm
johng wrote:
yeah, close - its " I've got a rampant boner on" our old drum roadie used acronyms when pointing out hot women!!!!! so I had to use it... and Eric, any time mate!! the pickups..ones a wilkinson MM, the other a no name but they are both loud & proud..passive but sound really good...I'm still in shock this project turned out so well...next bit of fum is picking th ebest points for the straplocks...this is a heavy bass in more ways than one!
so, these wilkinson can scream huh... Maybe i'll change a little bit my project.
NoobOnRoad
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Wed May 13, 2009 9:06 pm
Also, does Hell Patrol on your live album is the Judas Priest Hell Patrol?
P.S: i dont have the album so i cant check.
johng
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Thu May 14, 2009 5:17 am
no, its our song - waaaaay before the Priest!
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Thu May 14, 2009 7:04 am
with all this famous-osity in here now, I feel left out not posting to this thread EXCEPT for the fact that he is building a Tbird body bass
BUT if it was me building that thing it would have a pointy headstock on it like THIS 94 TBX:
or this Kahlerized 87 C/S
or Martin (chowderboots) favorite:
anyway, welcome to the craziness John, glad to have your participation into the board, we do like to "teach" these young-ins a thing or 2, and HOPEFULLY you will show my old *** a thing or 2 as well even if it is fantastic playing from a bunch of your videos.
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Thu May 14, 2009 7:28 pm
johng wrote:
yeah, close - its " I've got a rampant boner on" our old drum roadie used acronyms when pointing out hot women!!!!! so I had to use it... and Eric, any time mate!!
I knew I was close!
And you can bet that one of these days Linda and I will make a trip out to see you. And of course, you guys are ALWAYS welcome to come out here to Washington anytime!
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Thu May 14, 2009 8:01 pm
man, those charvels are AWESOME!!!!!! and you know we can ALL learn a thing or two from each other!!! even us old farts! hey, anyone got any thoughts on this...at various times I had a couple of kahler equipped basses also having a hipshot D-tuner - and it was a disaster...however, on the 2 basses I have now with kahlers, if I tune the E to D, it barely effects the tuning on the other strings!!!! the bass I have with the hipshot has a D tuner & its useless...unless I block the trem anyway, kinda useful ....until we go the 5 string/6 string/17 string bass with the trem route!
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Thu May 14, 2009 8:56 pm
I do notice a tiny variation in my other strings when I detune my E to a D, but it's so slight that it doesn't affect things too much.
That's really strange. I would think that using a Hipshot detuner would produce the same effect as simply detuning the string, but obviously there's something going on between the Hipshot detuner and the Kahler.
Chowderboots
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Thu May 14, 2009 11:53 pm
Possibly, it's because the Hipshot drops the string so drastically? When you tune a string down, you normally go at it much slower, right?
Mmh I love those Jackson pointy headstocks. Just wish that they worked for me with Kahlers. I even tried stringing the strings around the other side of the posts (like on thor from the JCF's CS Concert bass), but nope. Still horrible tuning stability. Wish that thing had a 2400 on it, but it can't be perfect, huh?
I wonder how realistic it would be to get the Kahler's route filled and get the bass refinished and put a hardtail bridge on there. Probably would be a lot of money if it could be done well.
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Fri May 15, 2009 5:03 am
Chowderboots wrote:
Possibly, it's because the Hipshot drops the string so drastically? When you tune a string down, you normally go at it much slower, right?
I believe this is the reason. The Hipshots can drop real quick, making the springs pull quickly.
Tuning down normally, keeps everything settled.
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Fri May 15, 2009 6:04 pm
Good call, guys! I do believe that's the reason.
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Fri May 15, 2009 6:19 pm
EricHaven wrote:
Good call, guys! I do believe that's the reason.
I've often though on it, as I love my Hipshot Drop Keys, not quite as much as my Kahlers, but still a lot.
One, if you install a trem stop, the stop the bridge from raising in pitch at all, the Hipshot key will work perfect, but you'll not be able to pull up on the trem, that matters not much to most(I know you only dive Eric), but I like to pull on harmonics.
Two, and this is just a theroy for now, but Hipshot "Tremsetter" they stop the trem from coming back from a dive or pull out of tune, on guitars at least, now, if they work for bass, maybe, just maybe, they should make the Drop Key work perfect.
Downside, I doubt they are compatible with Kahlers.
I need to contact Hipshot with a few questions sometime.
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Fri May 15, 2009 6:28 pm
Actually Bill, I do have my Kahler set to pull up by about a step or so, but I don't do so too often since I am always concerned about stretching my strings flat, as you guys already know.
Now once I get off my arse and build me a truly functional toplock, you can bet that I'll be doing some yankin'!
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Fri May 15, 2009 6:32 pm
Ah, mostly would have been a better word there then.
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Fri May 15, 2009 6:39 pm
That's OK, Bill.
As with a few other activities I enjoy a lot...sometimes I dive...sometimes I pull up.
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Fri May 15, 2009 10:17 pm
Hahahahaha wow....awesome!
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:25 pm
I got a really nice email from John:
Hey Eric! Off to Japan tomorrow AM...and my back went out yesterday...ugh..spent the morning at the emergency room so hopefully the drugs will help... Anyway, spent last Sunday with Tony of October Guitars at the place in MD & we designed a new bass, with the view to doing an import line...but my signature bass will be an 8 string....with a trem! Yeah!!!! Will keep ya posted.. Cheers, John
Looks like Raven will be playing in Japan for a bit! And hopefully John's back doesn't give him too much trouble.
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:29 pm
Thanks for sharing that, Eric! That's awesome...a John Gallagher signature bass! I want one.
Hope ya have a good one, John...wherever you are at the moment!
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:29 pm
OH S*** OH S*** OH S*** 8 STRING BASS WITH TREM!!! That will make them the 2nd company ever to do one as a regular (non custom) model, right? I want to see this thing so badly. JOHN! WE NEED PICS! OR AT LEAST SPECS!
Edit: Sorry guys, it's almost midnight, and when I'm up and doing stuff that late, I get kinda hyperactive and easily excited. Still, I'm really curious to see how it turns out.
Chowderboots
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:31 pm
You at midnight sounds like me all the time.
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:58 pm
So John, will it be based on you October 12ver?
Awesome pic, BTW
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:11 am
maybe I should cover a RAVEN song?
Chowderboots
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:03 am
Yeah, man!! I'd love to see it!
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:06 am
Chowderboots wrote:
Yeah, man!! I'd love to see it!
you know that schism by tool song is over 7 minutes..... so when you suggest a RAVEN song, let it be around 4 minutes please.
I'm gonna do the schism, but only the first part where it kinda gets quiet in the middle around 4 minutes worth...
Chowderboots
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:21 pm
Hey, man...I don't listen to Tool. They're cool and all, but I'm not too into them. I don't think it would have crossed my mind to recommend that to ya. But okay.
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:27 pm
Mike, I would love to hear you cover 46 and 2, since the bass line is so dominant.
And I'm not sure if John will be cruising the board while they're in Japan, but hopefully he'll check things once they get back.
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Sun Jun 21, 2009 1:32 pm
Kugelspot wrote:
So John, will it be based on you October 12ver?
Wait, I think this is it (or the body at least):
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:20 am
hi! jeez..you got good spies!!! thats the ruff cut...looking at 2 humbuckers and a P-bass in the middle...and a trem....! cheers, John
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Subject: Re: John Gallagher of Raven Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:36 am