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PostSubject: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:32 pm

mike's gonna have the pointiest bass of them all.

this is an exported jpeg from a working vector ruff template i made up from photos of that takamine bass and some jackson necks i looked at. the body vector would require some smoothing to make a template, its just straight lines between points, but its good enuff for a visual mark up.

somethin kinda like this ???????



yes, i dropped an image of a kahler trem on there (why not?). we'll get to particulars like what bridge, knobs, pots, pickups, electronic options, neckplate, and stuff later. i used carvin MM pickups on the ironbird and wonder why i never used them before ... they are awesome! i just ordered GFS MM's for the v440 ... we'll see if they are as good (for half the price!). maybe drop a ming's in there if we wanna wait a month to get it from beijing. whatever ... custom bass, its entirely up to you.

kahlers take up more real estate, forward and back. i had to move the rear split p forward about 1/2". i'de like to see someone tell the difference in tone in a blind taste test.

ooooh, and headstock logo. amimbari something or another?

i'll also make one up with the crackle finish product that i found and post it. i'll make what you want, but i just believe if your gonna have something cool that is a custom replica, why have it exactly as it came from the factory (even tho there were only what ... 400 - 600 of them made?). how custom is that? if your gonna be the only guy who has one, that would make it truly, the only one. ........like my palhen blue ironbird.

you can chek out finishes here .........

http://reranch.com/

so, i got all the files. we'll figure out some time to start shipping parts around, ordering parts, ordering wood and start production. depending on all that and whatever else comes up at the time (it usually does) taken into consideration, iddid probably take me 3 months to turn it around once i got everything ... tops.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:49 am

Very cool. I think I would do a P & another type of Pickup for the bridge position.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:15 am

Ide do a MM HH myself .... thats just where im at right now. Im also liking the tesla soapbar humbuckers.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:08 pm

I still like the idea of an X2N and a P.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:23 pm

hahaha oh wow SmileSmile

well if I had that, the takamine would be sold tomorrow and I didn't even get it yet!

and YES I DID notice you flipped the strings on that picture.

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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:35 pm

i cant stand that big ole honkin white nut on there. the bass is black, the hardware is black, accents are red. how is white supposed to work out in there??? might as well put gold tuners and a chrome bridge on it.

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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:45 pm

since the damn thing is mahogany, i'm sure the large head would balance it out, but the possible lefty would be ash or whatever so the smaller jacksonhead would not be a factor. and ya even the pic of Vincents is a white nut.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:49 pm

we have a show on feb 4th with my current band and my other band ( which BTW, on Sat they asked me to rejoin ) I set the terms and said call me with a yes or no.

anyway, I am gonna try to learn to play 2 judas priest songs righthanded in a month because i'm gonna use it if possible for picture taking purposes.....
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:45 pm

Mike, if anyone is ambidextrous like that its you.

Do, Headin out to the highway. The whole song is tonic and 5 other notes. Cool tune.

Yeah, I was thinking alder or ash for weight and keep the cost down. Its gonna already be an upcharge for an oversized piece.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:44 pm

the band already does livin after midnight into u gotta nother thing comin as 1 song to make it one long JP jam.

if it was that important, i would practice it but it IS VERY hard to play that way coach unless it was something super simple.


I'm gonna have a hell of a time finding a case that aint gonna cost me n arm+leg for the size. This unit has been with the seller since 1992, so im not gonna start moving it around unless it's protected Smile
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:19 pm

I didnt even think of that. Custom cases are too expensive and too hard to find for rare basses like ironbirds, explorers and custom shapes. Gigbags suck.

Ill start looking into materials for building one. Stumac has hinges and locks. Tolex, shag felt, thin mdf and foam .... in like flyn.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:17 am

I hated the universal case for my Tbird for that very reason. It used to slap around in there worse than Wooten banging his strings.

found a flightcase..ya the foam is not what it used to be but some cutting and re-gluing of the fabric later.....snug as a bug in a rug for life.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:59 am

i figured its that easy ... just wasnt sure of the best material to use. certain polys and foam rubbers eat right thru guitar finishes. harsh colors like red and orange will stain the lacquer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LemJQDkALcI

yeah, i can do this.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:33 am

years ago I had a guy hook me up with a case for my Randall guitar amp...he did a super nice job, but WHAT was he thinking...the case weighs more than the damn amp.
the damn amp in the case weighs more than my 8 space rack filled with my bass stuff.


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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:13 pm

ya I got it:

and what kind of goofy bridge do we have here?

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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:35 pm

Sweet bass! Odd bridge, though.

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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:10 pm

I never saw anything like that before.
meaning they just didnt use a standard whatever 80's bridge that was around it looks like someones proprietary design.

well I'm home and ya it plays alright out of the box. the intonation is a lil off and the gold colored strings are 20 years old cause the seller said he bought it in 92 messed around for a year in a band that needed the look then hung it on his wall.

I'll jam a video of it tomorrow or something playing with the knobs so you can hear what it sounds like
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:49 pm

I dont understand what the (angled) screws on the left of the saddle do ????????

At least its high mass.

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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:13 am

tonight when I have the time I'll mess with it. Too bad it's not a standard 5 screw or I would just toss an extra Jackson bridge on it.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:26 am

well I can only say that "out of the box", this guy had it setup perfect. super low buzzy fret typical action if I play harder than a superlight pluck, but no dead frets.

it does NOT sound like anything I have had before....ever. I wore it briefly righthanded to laugh at the neckdive....

uh, what neckdive? It is slightly lighter than my Charvel and even though that head looks huge which it is, someone did their homework making it out of Mahogany wings.. I assume it's a maple center and a true NT as the backside of the neck where it attaches looks one piece for sure.

now remember I have no clue who made the pickups or strings but wow..I'll probably do a A/B video using the same rig settings from this to my Charvel and let you all be the judges. I'm not changing them just because the silk at the top is all shredded.

god if I was a 20 something in some goth-metal band this would be the perfect tool. ( and if it was a lefty )
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:32 pm

even tho the headstock is huge, i didnt think it would neckdive as the whole thing looks huge.

overall, is it real heavy?
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:54 pm

nope. it is noticeably less than the kahlered charvel. I'll weigh it and see what we get but all I have at home is a digi bathroom scale and it may not be good enough to tell. maybe i'll bring our postal scale home this weekend. since it is sitting in the living room for now, I'll throw a tape measure on it and give you some dimensions.

if my charvel weighs 11 it weighs 9-10 for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:21 pm

oh ... i got its dimensions already. if i take some jpegs and scale them to fall on a standard 34" bass scale without changing its proportional ratio, then all the other measurements fall into place. this is how i made that graphic, and the template already. all that i dont know is what the pocket dimensions will be and where it will be on the body.

as far as weight is concerned, it comes down to subtracting the weight of the jackson neck from the weight of the whole right handed bass ... this will tell us roughly how much the body should weight so it will be as balanced.

or tweek it so that it is better balanced.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:34 pm

Really cool looking bass.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:49 pm

thanks BD, it's unique/different and only cool if I was in a GOTH-metal costume wearing band, but the thing sounds so different than my others the honeymoon has just begun Smile
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:53 pm

The red & black is so cool but so 80's.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:12 pm

I always liked Jackson Kellys..this is a little extreme, but the triple pinstripe around the body is pretty well done I really inspected it the other day.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:17 pm

Is it paint or actual binding. Certainly have never seen one of those before.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:30 pm

paint. my previous post with the close up is a good example of the whole thing. very smooth not "joined" or losing the middle stripe gap in the corners.

I have to get past the weird shape, and remember that Takamine makes some of the finest acoustics and always did.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:35 pm

and although we all knew this would not fit in a bag or case, I wanted to show you by how much it wont...



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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:38 pm

I might "might" use the thing for the Feb 4th metalshow because honestly, with the goofy shape it don't look too awkward and stupid.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:16 am

I got my headstock sticker all ready for the build, all I need now is everything else..lol

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so MAYBE this build will be black with GOLD painted lines?
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:44 pm

Dude, that bass sounds amazing! And I am really sold on the look as well. Great score!

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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:14 pm

oh ya the honeymoon had just started. I still would like to know who made that goofy bridge for it. The 1 screw idea to raise the saddles is smart compared to the 2 allen screw versions everyone uses..kinda like the kahler design to lift the strings.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:30 am

sick bass!

i remember i let one get away on heritage auctions
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:03 am

jrojas159 wrote:
sick bass!

i remember i let one get away on heritage auctions
regret it BIG time Mad


how many years ago was that or was it recently?
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:10 am

a couple of months ago i believe
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:12 am

i also msged this person on youtube who plays covers with their takamine on youtube
asking if they'd sell it Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:23 am

good luck but hahaha Nick will never sell that thing, I asked him for 3 years straight and offered quite a lot more than it is worth just to get it...

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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:31 am

haha yea man never got a reply from then
but if you ever decide to sell yours let me know haha
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:41 am

if this lefty version madmike is talking about becomes a reality, it will be for sale.....
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:29 pm

just when I though Takamine only made a couple of bass units in solid body in the 80's a guy on the JCF just found and bought this unit:
Too bad it is not black and red or I would ask him to sell it to me for the novelty.
He wants my old Randall RH150, so a trade may be in the future but he has not replied yet.

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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:41 pm

That's a sharp looking guitar!

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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:27 pm

Yeah, that could stay at my house. Sweet.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:25 am

prototype my ***....
and just when I thought there was only 3 of these things out here left.....mine, Vincents and that kid from youtube
A friend said there was one on a 3 day auction and I was so busy this weekend with gigs I wasnt surfing ebay.

wowwwwwwwww 500+ for a damaged unit. well $hiit that made my day!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-TAKAMINE-SOLIDBODY-BASS-GUITAR-G400-GB400-GB-400-G-400-RARE-PROTOTYPE-NR-/110819489371?pt=Guitar&hash=item19cd5b365b#ht_6730wt_1115
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:23 am

How was it dammaged? I didnt see it.

$500 ... Thats a good sign.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:09 am

the upper horn looks like a dog chewed it, the back of the headstock has dings... and missing the TR cover. HOW can anyone adjust a TR and not want to put the cover back on?

and the funny thing is the guy who showed me the link made me an offer of 600 for mine "when" I'm ready to sell it.
Well that won't be tomorrow but at least I know it has "worth"
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:58 pm

MY basses I play ... no tr cover.

Basses for sale ... usually a custom tr cover.

I know, I know. Its only 3 screws. Im so OCD about everything else right? This is my one thing to be lazy with.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:12 pm

I lost the tr covers on my fretless Ibanez and my Dynabass years ago. I got too lazy to put them back on and now they're somewhere deep in my crap drawer.
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PostSubject: Re: mirror mirror on the wall .....   Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:24 am

shame on you for being lazy with your TR covers Smile

and look what I found, some pics of an old Washburn that has the black/red thing going on as well from the 80's.
I guess TAK said, hmm we can do that body....but EXTREME Wink
( and yes it looks like someone had a kahler on it...lol )



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