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PostSubject: Rudy Sarzo   Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:02 pm

I recall reading that Rudy once experimented with Kahlers shortly after his signature line of Washburn basses first came out, but he never really used them much. I once asked him via email why he didn't continue using Kahlers, and his reply was that he could never get them to stay in tune. I explained to him that the reason was that the string angles on his basses all go off at extreme angles. He seemed to accept this, but expressed that he was no longer interested in experimenting with bass tremolo systems.

I have never seen any pictures of him with a Kahlerized bass, but he did indeed try them out back in the 80's.


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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:57 pm

Aah it's such a torment for me. I love basses with those wacky metal headstocks, but they just don't float with trems Rolling Eyes

Alas...at least there are always Ibanezes to keep me sane What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:14 pm

Chowderboots wrote:
I love basses with those wacky metal headstocks

You mean like this one?



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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:25 pm

Hahaha...no not really geek
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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:28 pm

Hey now! I like those wonky Kramer aluminum necks! Just for the visual freak-out factor alone! Laughing

Rudy had a HUGE impact on my playing. I clearly recall seeing him with Quiet Riot and also with Ozzy. Those super deep, low tones combined with his wicked stage presence made for quite the show! I remember seeing him and going "now that's what a Metal bass player ought to look like!" Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:33 pm

Hey, man, they're cool, but that wasn't what I was thinking of, jah mean? I always thought it looked like having a tuning fork on the end of the neck. I guess that in its own right is kidna demonic Twisted Evil

I know--Rudy Sarzo sounds GIGANTIC!
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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:42 pm

I have a bootleg from a live radio broadcast of Ozzy playing in Memphis TN back about a month after Randy Rhoads had died (Brad Gillis, later to be with Night Ranger, took over on guitar for a while). I had the headphones on while the tape was rolling, and I clearly remember right after Ozzy introduced the song Believer, and the next thing I knew, there was this wicked, dark, heavy SWOOON!!!. Rudy had begun the song like the record with a swipe down the neck, and his bass sounded so bloody dark and powerful, the hair on the back of my neck stood straight up! Shocked

I still get chills whenever I listen to it, even 27 years later! Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:43 pm

Hmm...I'd love to listen to that some time Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:45 pm

I might have to upload that track one of these days. Cool

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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:46 pm

I'd enjoy that, if you want to pirat
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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:58 pm

Let me work on that for you. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:00 pm

Ooh! flower
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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:19 pm

OK. I got it turned into digital on my PC.

Now I just have to find a new place to host it that isn't hard to use, won't crash, and is free.

Any suggestions?

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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:40 am

For downloads, Mediafire is awesome.
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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:49 am

Thanks, Bill! I'll give that a whirl after we come home. Cool

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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:01 pm

EricHaven wrote:
Hey now! I like those wonky Kramer aluminum necks! Just for the visual freak-out factor alone! Laughing

Chowderboots wrote:
Hey, man, they're cool, but that wasn't what I was thinking of, jah mean? I always thought it looked like having a tuning fork on the end of the neck. I guess that in its own right is kidna demonic Twisted Evil

I love the look too, everyone who sees it seems to notice that first, and they always ask "WTF is that?" I love that kind of attention. I used a Hohner headless Steinberger copy for a while, and I think the appeal for me was the uniqueness of it. I guess it's the "bass player's complex," a deep rooted psychological fear of me, as a bassist, not being noticed, so I compensate by using weird looking basses and lot's of effects.

I'm pretty sure the reason for that tuning fork headstock was to reduce its weight as much as possible to help with the neck dive, which is bad even with all that weight cut out. If anyone gets the chance to get an aluminum neck Kramer, I'd take it, cause they really are great, and very unique, but GET A LEATHER STRAP. I used a neoprene strap with it that I stole of another bass before I got a Levi's leather strap (sexy as hell, BTW) and it helps tremendously.
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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:36 am

The strap helps with the balance, you mean? I dig leather straps for basses as well. Seems to anchor them better. I dig wider ones--the look a little flashier, I think. Looking into getting a 4" one off of eBay and studding it up What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:30 pm

Actually,
Rudy was THE first person to use a bass tremolo. When he was using the black Washburn that he modded with the Bartolinis (Metal Health Vid),Washburn built him a brown replica of that bass(only with an inline headstock) with a gold Kahler. It looked beautiful!
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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:05 pm



Here you go, Eric! Very Happy
A bit blurry but there it is!
Go Rude!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:11 am

I used to have a gold kahler Smile


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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:38 am

Now THAT is a sweet bass! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:58 am

Sorry guys....
I meant, Rudy was the first to use a Kahler not the first to use a Bass trem.... Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:04 pm

Awesome! Thanks for sharing those pictures, Art! Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Rudy Sarzo   Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:24 pm

thanks Art, the gold on his red looks very nice yep, mine--haha no. it's gone and a black one is on it now.
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